PS Paul was an asshole.
dog is god
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did the apostle paul really know jesus ?
by mP ini made a statement to tec, that paul did not know jesus.
in fact i challenge anyone to show from his writings, that he knew about the christ presented in the gospels.
i believe it is fair to say the lord or christ of paul is only mentioned as a spirit being who was ressurrected for us.
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did the apostle paul really know jesus ?
by mP ini made a statement to tec, that paul did not know jesus.
in fact i challenge anyone to show from his writings, that he knew about the christ presented in the gospels.
i believe it is fair to say the lord or christ of paul is only mentioned as a spirit being who was ressurrected for us.
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dog is god
Paul's only "claim" to have met JC was when JC "appeared" to him and screwed up Paul's eyes. Paul never met JC. Sure he knew of the movement and was very against it....held the coats of Jew's who stoned Stephen to death. Paul was very legalistic and hijacked the JC thread. If you look closely at his crap and JC words they are very opposed. Paul wrecked a good thing and because of his Jewish education and his forcefullness he overshadowed the remaining apostles (unlettered and ordinary).
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What do you think about this?
by OneDayillBeFree inthere's so much going on in my life right now but i'll be posting more about that later.. .
to get straight to the point (i'm actually in the meeting right now) my mother has been very depressed about a lot of things lately.
she is a regular pioneer and is a jw who many think is happy but she's a good faker and knows all to well how to put on a fake smile to cover up her true feelings.
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dog is god
Nothing matters. Just go to college.
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IS GOD REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW?
by still thinking inthis is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
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dog is god
Anyone can convince themself or be convinced by others because of their personal/emotional/whatever needs. If you are "convinced" of something = believing something. To me that is totally different than "knowing" something. "Believing" needs no proof. My mom, a extremist JW believer made a shocking comment in the WT study years ago. She said that "God" could just be a mass of energy somewhere billions of light years away and not like humans at all. (Thanks to her watching Star Trek on TV). Boy, was she shut down quickly. I really wish people would stop "humanizing" an entity we "know" nothing about. Or if there is an "entity". Maybe it is just a thing...like a cog in a wheel. Why don't we just stop worrying about something we can do or "know" anything about. Just livel
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Memorial - Why do i keep going?
by maisha inevery year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
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dog is god
Well, I went to memorial for a few years. When I realized that the organization had nothing for me but to sit and watch if maybe someone did partake....according to the WT...it is useless waste of time. If you go it's as if there is a game going on, the partakers watch the game having crackers and red wine. you don't see the game but you just sit quietly and watch those watching it. You are not invited to play or watch. Why go?
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Do You Think Writing My Daughter is a Good Idea?
by mrquik ini left several years ago & have one daughter still in.
she's 32 & married to a nonbeliever.
after i got labeled as an apostate, she cut off all communication.
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dog is god
This is so heartbreaking. I would just send an occasional card with absolutely no references to dogma or anything else religious. Might just say a few things about whats new and what's happening in your lives. Shes a big girl and can stay where she wants. That is not a fault of yours. Good luck.
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V for Vendetta - another great movie for faders and ex-JWs
by RayPublisher injust re-watched it again recently...wow what a powerful film and really shows up totalitarianism, mind control, etc.
of course the great wachowski's (of matrix fame) made it, so what do you expect?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4ceey.
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dog is god
Interesting. My oldest brother was 10 when my mom devolved from human to jw. He LOVED this movie. I have it but have never watched it. He even had the mask. So, I will watch it and rewatch The Matrix this weekend.
Please have the Apostate Film Festival in Seattle. Nothing EVER happens here. It's a beautiful city rain or no rain.
Thanks for the post.
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dog is god
The 4 gospels were not written by their namesakes. The writers were anonymous.
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Want honest answers
by independenthinker ini've wanted to make this account for the past 2 weeks, but ive been afraid that ill get caught by posting.
do they check this site?.
im 18 years old,baptized at 14. really my problems started a few weeks ago.
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dog is god
Welcome here kiddo!!!! I was a born in. I am so happy that you are young and won't be stuck there. Just remember, the elders, the WT. bethel et all.......THEY HAVE NO POWER OVER YOU...........unless you give it to them. If someone called me to go to a judicial committee meeting I would just say I am not interested. No one can force you into anything. I think not having "Jehovah" anymore was really hard for me. Like I lost my best and only true friend. Truely that was not true. I had lost myself. You are smart and resilient. Just keep reading. xoxo
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A Popular Question Raised by people who were never JW.
by Momma-Tossed-Me ini talk to a lot of people about the watchtower because it comes up in conversation all of the time.. money eventually becomes a topic as it is a very wealthy corporation.. so the question is always raised and it is a good one, "who controls it?".
people want to know "who has the power of the purse strings?
" and quite frankly so do i.. there is someone behind the scenes who knows so much that the wtbts could never fire him or her.
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dog is god
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
But seriously folks, someone really should launch an investigation. Wouldn't it be interesting? There must be a "mole" who would "shine new light" on those big dark dollar secrets.